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From: Dan Tanner <dtanner@is.com>
To: "'java-logging-input@eng.sun.com '" <java-logging-input@eng.sun.com>
Subject: input
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:27:06 -0500
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My background is:
I currently use log4j.  I don't have any personal attachments to it.  There
is room for improvement for it, but it has become a well-honed tool for
logging through heavy use and development, and I hope you remain as open as
possible in making the best of the proposed spec and log4j.

I think you need to:
- Do performance comparisons between your latest implementation and log4j.

- Provide a response to Ceki Gülcü's critique on a point-by-point basis, and
make it publicly available for further responses from those currently using
some sort of logging tool. 
i.e. Do you agree with each point?  If not, why?


This component will be especially important to Sun's image for supporters as
well as competitors.  If successful, it will show the immense value of open
community involvement in creating the best software.  It is a huge
opportunity to show that you mean what you say.  If unsuccessful, it'll look
like the bickering that occurs too often in the linux community.

Therefore, I urge you once again to think carefully and openly to make
java.util.logging a utility people are happy to embrace.

Thanks.