Delivered-To: cgu@qos.ch
From: "Tom Janofsky" <tom@tomjanofsky.com>
To: <java-logging-input@eng.sun.com>
Cc: <cgu@qos.ch>
Subject: JSR 47 v log4j
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:56:01 -0400
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As the owner of a small software consulting company, and a Java developer
and instructor for the past 5 years, I'm writing to you to urge you to
consider the points raised by Ceki Gülcü  in his paper at
http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/critique.html.

I have used log4j on a number of J2EE client projects, and I consider it to
be unparalleled in logging APIs.  The technical differences have been
covered before, I will not reiterate them.

I realize that my concerns come at a late time in the 1.4 release cycle, but
I feel that a pattern has emerged of expert groups making decisions, and
failing to appreciate the importance and dynamism of the open source
community.  The most exciting emergences in the Java community over the past
18 months have not been from Sun, or from a JSR, but from the open source
community.  (JBoss, log4j, Struts, Ant)

I urge you to communicate these feelings as best you can within the Sun
community, and to reconsider the inclusion of JSR 47 in 1.4

Tom Janofsky
tom@tomjanofsky.com